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Molloy promises ‘Monokote meetings’ decision by morning

http://blog.umt.edu/gracecase/files/2009/02/inkwellthumbnail.jpg  When court resumes Wednesday morning in the W.R. Grace trial, Judge Donald Molloy will have made a final decision on whether to allow Robert Locke’s testimony regarding two Grace executive meetings in 1986. Testimony about the meetings, which were about a proposed new regulatory standard, raised vigorous objections from defense lawyers after the jury left the room Tuesday.

The judge said he will examine the arguments and documents submitted by both the defense and prosecution tonight and draw  his conclusion.  For planning purposes, Molloy instructed both parties to prepare for court Wednesday as if none of Locke’s contested testimony will be allowed.

The meetings in question took place on July 1 and July 2, 1986.  As director of marketing for building products, Locke was present at these meetings and his take on what transpired appears to be considered a crucial part of his testimony by the prosecution.

New standards from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration were the basis of the meetings. According to U.S. attorney Kris McLean, Grace executives attempted to conceal all evidence of the meetings.  McLean has a 1985 document that appears to show defendant Robert Walsh calculating the cost of expected and excess death tolls as a result of Grace product use.

The prosecution expects Locke to testify that the main priority of the meetings was first to preserve profits, then to comply with the new OSHA guidelines. The new rules  limited the permissible fiber concentration to a 0.2 limit.  He would also speak on the exit strategies discussed for getting out of Libby, Mont., such as selling land and halting vermiculite production.

The government is trying to use these meetings as proof of Count I of the indictment, showing the defendants were part of a conspiracy to keep secret the health risks posed by asbestos-tainted products and production.

Perhaps of greater importance, the prosecution indicated the meeting memos would “demonstrate Grace was withholding information about asbestos in its vermiculite from customers” and the government, and the memos suggest a motive to keep it a secret.

The defense forcefully struck back, bringing out three consecutive defense attorneys to hammer their point home: not only did the government know about the asbestos in the vermiculite, but it encouraged Grace to petition OSHA for an exemption to the new standards, which it received.

David Bernick, lead defense attorney for Grace, felt the testimony would just be rehashing the same information from the “hundred documents” the government has given the jury and that no inference of conduct to defraud the government is proven.

“There is no underlying nexus established between the concern of MK5 and MK6 and an intent to defraud the United States government and Grace’s consumers,” Bernick said, referring to Monokote 5 and Monokote 6, a succession of products that represent a shift from asbesotos-tainted to asbestos-free manufacturing. “The real problem is it’s extremely difficult to figure out their conspiracy case and how it connects to this document (meeting notes taken by Locke) dangling out here.”

Bernick also said that Locke has suspicious motives for testifying, as he is currently embroiled in a lawsuit with Grace.

“You can’t get away from the fact that this guy has got an enormous, enormous, profound axe to grind,” Bernick said.

Thomas Frongillo, the attorney for defendant Robert Bettacchi, opened his statement with an ominous warning: “I will show how the witness will commit perjury on the stand,” Frongillo said.

He would commit perjury, Frongillo explained, because Locke alleges that these meetings were secret.  Frongillo said the government knew about the switch from MK5 to MK6 in its Monokote products.

Initially, the product would not have had to come off the market, because it met standards.  But OSHA lowered standards further than Grace thought they would, so OSHA urged Grace to request an exemption to the new law, an exemption they got.

“Our leading product will be taken off the market, and this is being ordered by the government,” Frongillo said.  “OSHA encouraged this exemption, so they (government) knew there was asbestos in the product.”

“Are we going to let Locke take the stand and lie to these people?” Frongillo asked, referring to the jury.

Defense attorney Stephen Spivack called pushing for the testimony an “act of desperation” by the prosecution.

“What they are trying to do is, at the eleventh hour, take a business meeting that every business in the U.S. would have had occur the exact way this had,” Spivack said.  “The prosecution is trying to draw an inference from a conspiracy they have yet to prove.”

McLean was given a chance to answer back and could not see the imminent perjury Locke would be guilty of.  He said the meeting notes were probative — meaning they tend to or actually do prove something.

“Probative of what?” Judge Molloy asked.  “I’m not trying to be facetious or truculent, but probative of what?”

After more discussion on the relevance of the documents to the case, and to the conspiracy charge itself, Molloy announced he had heard enough.  He excused the court and thanked everyone for sticking it out almost an extra hour.  Court will resume at 8:30 Wednesday morning. 

Josh Benham (7:30 p.m.)

Comments

Comment from Leila
Time March 24, 2009 at 8:02 pm

Throughout this blog, the prosecution has not been fairly covered. After McLean’s answer that the meeting notes were probative, Judge Molloy asks “Probative of what?”, and there is no further reporting on the response. For those not in the courtroom, the impression is given the prosecution is doing nothing, since most reporting is done on the defense.

Kris McLean and the rest of the prosecution must have something to say about the attacks on their case.

Comment from Don Wilkins
Time March 24, 2009 at 8:34 pm

This whole discussion goes to my point made earlier in the trial. EPA doesn’t have to take economics of the company or industry when administering their guidelines for ’safe” exposure, whereas OSHA has to. What is interesting is the fact the EPA, which is designed for consumer safety, etc, encouraged to get a variance from OSHA on a product and process they KNEW would have adverse affects on communities and the workforce. Lab rats, so to speak or in the case of WR Grace; Hamsters!!

Comment from Terry Trent
Time March 24, 2009 at 9:59 pm

Don’t worry, you will hear plenty, actually way too much, from the prosecution, Argghh. Makes me want to vomit.

Anyway, both OSHA and EPA have granted exemptions across the United States, that have never been applied for. These days not only the employees and or members of a community do not know, but the companies themselves do not know. Actually WR Grace had no clue whatsoever, even as much as it may seem that they did know, that they were dealing with a material that was 770 times more toxic than “asbestos” and known at that time to be at least 500 times more toxic. Neither OSHA or EPA would tell them either. Want evidence? EPA still won’t tell you even today.

Why bother with all that telling people stuff when there is so much trouble connecting deaths to cause. Nobody will ever know what we (EPA) did, here or there ……or in Libby!!
TTrent

Comment from John Derry
Time March 25, 2009 at 7:50 am

Don & Terry you have outlined the problem, and the situation. EPA/OSHA wants to appear as if they are doing their jobs. But how can they tell tell the public that Grace products pose an “imminent health risk” without panicking the general public?
Imagine telling every person who spread a sack of vermiculite around their fruit trees or tomato plants, that the soil was now toxic!
And if some toddler crawling in the garden today contracts cancer, 20 years from now, linking cause and effect will be next to impossible.
It’s a sad situation.

Comment from Terry Trent
Time March 25, 2009 at 9:40 am

John- there are places such as Tuolumne County California and Jefferson Parish Louisiana where cause and effect have already been linked. We already know that similarly situated areas such as El Dorado County California and Fairfax Virginia will follow right behind.

People know how to take care of themselves or they will figure it out soon enough when given the correct information. They always deserve the choice.

Amazingly enough, our American values and laws do not allow for “they” EPA and ATSDR to do anything other than tell the truth. That includes seeking out those in harm’s way and informing them. That is what Public Health is supposed to do. They are no supposed to adjust the truth just because it is inconvenient. In our case, the cards must fall where they will….EPA and ATSDR can not legally provide bedside lies to help us die quietly and with no fuss, like cattle at a slaughterhouse.

The only other option is to allow EPA and ATSDR to create death traps like Libby, Tuolumne, Jefferson Parish, over and over again, always saying “oops, we didn’t know”. That is not only unacceptable, but it is against the law.
TTrent

Comment from John Derry
Time March 26, 2009 at 6:09 am

There you go,- unacceptable.
I guess I should have said “death to cause”. like TT mentioned above, linking that is troublesome.
TT got it right, just give us the truth.
As to legality, OJ showed us all, good lawyers will get you off anything.

Comment from Mike Crill Missoula,Mt
Time March 28, 2009 at 12:12 am

Kinda like… How many different brands of cigarettes are there? What does each one do?
How many asbestos fibers out there? What does one, do to you. Some one stop humans from moving to Libby and allow those who want to leave…the option and means…at any cost. Libby must die alone.Thank you.

Comment from Mike Crill Missoula,Mt
Time April 29, 2009 at 5:58 am

Terry and all, IF, my recollection is correct and oh please if I am wrong set me straight but as I understand this: Peter Grace is appointed head of Grace Commission, by Raegan, which sets the rules and laws governing Health and safety from toxins,poisons,etc.I believe this was before EPA/OSHA/etc were enacted. At this time Peter Grace KNEW his mine in Libby contained Tremolite asbestos.The Tremolite asbestos was the means for the mine, NOT VERMICULITE. BUT, because Peter Grace classified HIS mine in Libby as a Vermiculite mine and NOT a asbestos mine, THIS is how Peter Grace got away with what they did with no rules or laws as the other asbestos mines.WR Grave product was/is asbestos…Am I wrong???

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